Pastor Josh McPherson is joined by Saddleback Pastor Andy Wood in this podcast where they reflect on an intense 4-day rite of passage experience called Mancard—a transformational weekend designed to test and mold young men through adversity, brotherhood, and spiritual mentorship. They share the spiritual battles faced by fathers, the challenges of raising sons in a distracted culture, and the power of being present, humble, and obedient as dads and leaders.

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